Screaming is the New Spanking

by Kate on November 5, 2009

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If Momma ain’t happy ain’t nobody happy…so the saying goes from my childhood. It was true then and it’s true today. When you’re stressed out, tired, hungry, frustrated, your patience is at a minimum and when your child does something, anything that gets the best of you, what do you do?

Well, if you’re like most parents out there today, you scream. That’s according to a New York Times article just out.

Screaming has become the new spanking. Instead of resorting to hitting our children, parents today yell. And they yell a lot. It’s more socially acceptable than spanking your kid, at least in public. And even though Dr. Spock says that shouting was “inevitable from time to time,” it leads to parental guilt. Who needs more of that?

You can blame yelling on all sorts of factors today like multitasking, lack of time, squeezing in quality time, well, a whole host of things that are daily occurrances for most families.

One way to look at it is like this – if you got yelled at at work, it would be very disturbing. So why is it okay to yell at our kids? I don’t know. I just know it happens.

As a child of a yeller (who isn’t, right?) it can be scary to be yelled at but I’ll tell you, it’s REALLY effective, though I’ve read that mental health professionals say that’s it is ineffective. It’s not – if it didn’t work, why would so many parents continue to do it?

These professionals also warn that it can be damaging to a child’s sense of well being and self-esteem. I’ll attest to that. It does take its toll in a big way. I mean, I still flinch at the thought of making my yelling parent angry. And I’m 38.

The thing is, parenting is hard. It’s quite possibly the hardest thing one will do. Parenting is non-stop and you don’t get to take a break when you are at your wits end. You are still a parent. If your child decides to act up when you are down and out, well, then, sometimes you lose it. Will yelling ultimately affect our children? Yes. Then again, everything we do will affect them in some way.

My advice – start saving for their therapy fund now.

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  • http://none Richard Wiliam Narlian

    Screaming really does not affect the wrong-doer,as much as it is a basic primal expression from the outraged party.
    Logic would say that a cool,leavel headed converstion,explaining the negative ramifications of the initial action,failure,…..would be more effective,

  • Beth

    What your article leaves out is the frequency of these yelling and/or screaming sessions as a baseline for what you are discussing . Coming from an emotionally and verbally abusive home where the mother’s screaming sessions were often (every other day at minimum), and lasted between two and four hours each time, I can tell you with factual certainty that a parent’s yelling and screaming has a lifelong negative impact affecting the child’s self-esteem, sense of well being, how they treat others, patience for others and many other basic attributes of the child and interactions s/he has in life. This is not an article subject to be taken lightly and with so little information provided to its readers to reference how to control the yelling and screaming impulse. Adults who frequently yell and scream are, in essence, displaying childlike behavior that they know will not be “checked” by another person because they are, in fact, considered an adult by their physical age and, therefore, cannot be made to physically stop doing so by another person. As it is not okay for a child, boss, co-worker, vendor, etc. to yell and scream at another person in each of those managed circumstances (as the example titles in this sentence suggest) it is also not okay for an adult to then decide that since their home life is not kept in check by the social norms and mores as public and work spaces that they are free to yell or scream at others. The one place that humans retreat to at the end of the day is to be a place of rest and rejuvenation; a safe place in which to survey the day they have had, learn from it and then rest for the next day to come. If a child cannot count on that space to be a safe haven where one’s emotional being is just as important as their physical well being then the safe haven of “home” will become a jail cell or torture chamber. I want to comment specifically on certain sentences you wrote in your article. My comment s are below each quoted item:
    “You can blame yelling on all sorts of factors today like multitasking, lack of time, squeezing in quality time, well, a whole host of things that are daily occurrances for most families.”
    - The blame of yelling and screaming goes to the one whom yells or screams. I can no more physically make your vocal chords scream than the next person. Neither can the child, spouse, etc, etc, etc….blame for this always falls on the person who is actually doing the yelling and screaming.
    “One way to look at it is like this – if you got yelled at at work, it would be very disturbing. So why is it okay to yell at our kids? I don’t know. I just know it happens.”
    - Why is it okay, you ask in this article?….it is not okay. It never will be no matter what article suggests that it is or what folks on the street say. It never will be okay.
    “As a child of a yeller (who isn’t, right?) it can be scary to be yelled at but I’ll tell you, it’s REALLY effective, though I’ve read that mental health professionals say that’s it is ineffective. It’s not – if it didn’t work, why would so many parents continue to do it?”
    - Here you do not define what “REALLY effective” means…..if you define it as mentally scarring a child into being scared of the parent then, yes, it is “REALLY effective”…..Constant yelling and screaming from my parent just made me realize over and over again that they had no sense of self-control, very little (if any) respect for others, no respect for themselves, showed me they were willing to act like a five year old that didn’t get their candy for the day, etc, etc. Their yelling and screaming meant that I learned not to do those things. I’m just as stubborn as the next person with my own issues that I have spent my entire life working on and screaming is no longer one of them. One can learn not to yell and scream. I have done it and it is because I learned that once I began to yell and scream that everyone stopped paying attention and immediately reasoned that I was just a village idiot that could not be trusted. I don’t think losing respect and being disrespected by a child is what a parent is going for when yelling and screaming, but it will be what happens….for life, if the parent keeps up the abusive behavior.
    - By the way, who are you to say that the troves of mental health professionals whom have collectively spent years studying this subject are wrong? Your comment just completely baffles me. Your opinion that they are wrong is written like fact. You are the one that is wrong. You need to check yourself on writing this type of opinion article.
    “My advice – start saving for their therapy fund now.”
    - I think this is a careless comment to make on such a serious topic. Families can save the lifelong emotional toll (and cost, human and monetary-wise) now by controlling their behavior. It makes much more sense to start now than to ignore the issue. This comment is a “giving up” kind of comment…..and folks that are in their right mind have control over themselves. Start now because later you may lose your children altogether, as they will not want to put up with an abusive parent.

  • RG

    The comparison of this article is apples and oranges. It totally assumed before anything else that parents who do choose to spank their children are out of control or abusive when doing so, and that their reason to discipline in that way is anger. Not fair, not fact, not even close.

  • Kate

    @Kevin, thanks for chiming in. If you feel like sharing, I was wondering in what circumstance would it be OK to discipline your child by spanking. I know, in my family, there are mixed opinions.

  • http://villy-k.blogspot.com/ Villy K

    I am so against spanking your child! Screaming on another hand isn`t helpful either! I do scream at my boyfriend and guess what he is 30 and it doesn`t help!!!! NO!!!! So I would say you really really have to take your time and talk to your kid on his language an explain why and why not! Just be patient!!!!

  • jules

    Screaming does not invite listening.

  • Cate

    This is a poorly researched and written article. I’m surprised it ever made it to print (or online).
    Sometimes, and when I say sometimes I mean RARELY should a parent have to yell at a child. If they have properly raised their child it should be a RARE occassion.
    Our PTA President screams at her 2 kids EVERY DAY. One child is almost 11, the other is 13. They are completely out of control. She blames part of it on her son who was diagnosed with Aspergers about a year ago. Personally, I see her children’s poor behavior as a result of her lack of parenting. No boundaries, no consequences other than screaming at them over the cellphone. Also, this is a woman who is ALWAYS at the school with PTA. She isn’t one of the Moms doing the work, she likes to be out front glad handing and taking credit. I find it pathetic that every time we have a parent information night such as bullying, cyber bullying, health ect, she never attends. She is a SAHM, but doesn’t do anything WITH her children. She doesn’t encourage them to take up sports or scouts or anything productive. They watch tv.
    My opinion. Sometimes there might be a reason to raise your voice, but it should be rare.

  • Kate

    @Jules. Amen. Really, really, really good point.

  • http://www.personalisedbabyclothing.co.uk Jon

    I don’t tend to get screamed at @ work. However, when I had a boss, I did what I was asked, or at least started a constructive and thoughtful debate or discussion about other ways to do things, or why something hadn’t finished on time. However with my 2 and 3 year olds, sometime they don’t listen, don’t do as they are told and put themselves at risk through lack of experience… so a shout / scream attracts attention accordingly. If I was at work, crossing the road to a meeting and bus was coming that I hadn’t seen, I’d hope my colleagues would scream at me!

  • Kat

    “…I’ve read that mental health professionals say that’s it is ineffective. It’s not – if it didn’t work, why would so many parents continue to do it?”
    This statement is total fluff. Is this not the exact same argument that people made for spanking??? I agree with Cate that this article lacks clear research and is poorly written. All it does is bring up an issue and then says it’s too hard to control, so why bother trying to deal with it. Is this really the approach you take to dealing with your anger around your kids?

  • Kat

    I was yelled at constantly as a kid and after a while my siblings and I figured out that all we had to do was endure the yelling and then it’d be over. We didn’t get punished, just yelled at, what a joke. I say its totally ineffective because if all you ever do is get yelled and that’s all the punishment you get, then you keep doing stupid stuff. I spank only once and a while, the threat in between in what really works. But I have good kids with an open line of communication where we dont yell, hardly spank, and do our best to get along in this world….and we believe in GOD!

  • Rebecca

    I made the mistake of yelling with my first daughter and all it has resulted in is teaching her to yell too. It got to the point that we sounded more like sisters yelling at each other than a parent-child relationship! It was a tough lesson to learn, partly because I had to stop and realize just how much I was yelling. Now that I have worked on changing that behavior, I also realize how hard it is to teach my daughter to change the behavior she learned from me. Now that I have two daughters, I try to avoid making the same mistake.

  • http://busykidshappymom.org busy kids=happy mom

    What I’ve realized that screaming means…. they’ve won (because I’ve lost it).

  • Goodtimefriend

    I was yelled at and spanked when I did something wrong, and I’m glad for it… otherwise I would have just done whatever I wanted and would have thought there was no major consequese… Then as I got older I would have kept thinking that and ended up in jail…

  • Sabmaur

    It appears that the majority of the people who never
    raised a child state that they are against spanking and they would never spank
    their child; but are judgmental toward parents who do spank. When they have a
    child, they will change their tune. The fact is that each child is different. Each
    family raised their children differently. You can’t follow Dr Spock’s book on raising
    your kids because the book concentrates on one type of child. There are no
    books to raise your unique child. Who wants a perfect child?  I wouldn’t! 
    Life would be so boring!  Some
    children need a spanking; some need you to raise your voice (no constant
    yelling); punishment; and some need just the parent to talk to them. I believe
    all children are good; but sometimes make bad decisions. They should not be
    ridiculed for making mistakes either. We should want them to bounce back and
    learn from their mistakes. They are precious and deserve for us to teach them
    right from wrong. I raised three children and we always had opened
    communications. As a parent, I knew that there would be times when they would
    choose the wrong paths. Children are not perfect and we as parents are not
    perfect either. Since everything was depending on their age and
    scenario-driven, I believed in sitting down with my kids and explaining the
    pros and cons of the situation. Always, I asked why and what they could do to
    improve themselves. If they decided to repeat the offense, we would communicate
    and then they would be punished for a couple of days. Sometimes, I would allow
    them to have input in choosing their punishment. If the first punishment wasn’t
    enough, then the 2nd punishment was longer, usually 1 week. A spanking would be
    attached if the situation would be detrimental to them or someone’s health and
    safety. Regardless, we would talk about why they should be punished and why
    they should be spanked. Out of my three children, I had one child who, at
    times, understood situations only when he did receive the spanking.
    Nevertheless, spanking and raising my voice was the last resort.

  • Sabmaur

    It appears that the majority of the people who never
    raised a child state that they are against spanking and they would never spank
    their child; but are judgmental toward parents who do spank. When they have a
    child, they will change their tune. The fact is that each child is different. Each
    family raised their children differently. You can’t follow Dr Spock’s book on raising
    your kids because the book concentrates on one type of child. There are no
    books to raise your unique child. Who wants a perfect child?  I wouldn’t! 
    Like would be so boring!  Some
    children need a spanking; some need you to raise your voice (no constant
    yelling); punishment; and some need just the parent to talk to them. I believe
    all children are good; but sometimes make bad decisions. They should not be
    ridiculed for making mistakes either. We should want them to bounce back and
    learn from their mistakes. They are precious and deserve for us to teach them
    right from wrong. I raised three children and we always had opened
    communications. As a parent, I knew that there would be times when they would
    choose the wrong paths. Children are not perfect and we as parents are not
    perfect either. Since everything was depending on their age and
    scenario-driven, I believed in sitting down with my kids and explaining the
    pros and cons of the situation. Always, I asked why and what they could do to
    improve themselves. If they decided to repeat the offense, we would communicate
    and then they would be punished for a couple of days. Sometimes, I would allow
    them to have input in choosing their punishment. If the first punishment wasn’t
    enough, then the 2nd punishment was longer, usually 1 week. A spanking would be
    attached if the situation would be detrimental to them or someone’s health and
    safety. Regardless, we would talk about why they should be punished and why
    they should be spanked. Out of my three children, I had one child who, at
    times, understood situations only when he did receive the spanking.
    Nevertheless, spanking and raising my voice was the last resort.

  • kate

    Thanks the thoughtful comment! Each family is different – with their own rules and boundaries as well as disciplining methods. Also, as you point out, there is no single way to raise a kid. I agree that children come from a place of goodness and as parents, it is our job to teach them how to navigate the world. That includes teaching them right from wrong as well as teaching them respect and conflict resolution. I really appreciate you chiming in.

  • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.upyri Quintana AJ

    I would say shouting can do as much harm as spanking, ignoring or spoiling a child, and it greatly depends on how the child processes the attitude of his/her parents. I got physically and verbally abused by my mother, when she wasn’t ignoring my existence: the pshysical part and the cold shoulder, I could handle perfectly well, it bothered me none and just got through with it…

    But when she shouted or yelled at me about how poorly I did at school (that is, when I scored A- or less), or how fat I looked, or how hideous my face was, or how lousy my artistic skills where… I have been undergoing therapy for over five years and it still gets to me like a bullet…

    Each one of us handles things in a different way, and yet that is no excuse for saying that one kind of abuse is “less harmful” than another.  Personally, I find this article outrageous; are you trying to imply that yelling at kids is more “acceptable” than spanking? No way, Miss!

  • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.upyri Quintana AJ

    I think we shouldn’t compare grown-ups, that can really understand why we’re being yelled at, with kids that have no idea in which planet they are. Yes, a reasonable scolding could be fit from time to time (and check out here, I say “scolding” as meaning of calmy, though firmly, explaining them WHAT they did wrong and WHY they should avoid those kinds of actions), but yelling at them just to take out your anger? I really don’t think that’s gonna help them… Nope, definitely not gonna help…

  • Kimberly

    I have 3 kids and #4 on the way, and I can tell you that screaming doesn’t work one bit.  The kids just think you hate them (and they hate you) and don’t even hear the words you are screaming.  BUT, punishment DOES work.  Taking away a privilege - and what one kid considers a privilege is different from another – is VERY effective.  Even a 3-yr-old putting his nose in the corner is sad that they are missing out on whatever else is going on; that was their privilege.   Screaming evokes too many feelings of hate, worthlessness, etc, for the “point” you are trying to make to get across.  Most kids who are screamed at just want to know afterward if you still love them, and they’re not at all thinking about what they did wrong or what you said to them.

  • Kimberly

    The worst behaved family of (6!) children at our school is also only screamed at with no consequences.  The kids don’t even hear the screaming anymore – you see mom screaming at them and the 6, 5, and 3 yr olds are still just laughing and smiling about whatever they’re doing wrong and don’t even look at her!  She’s invisible.  And when she’s not around, they’re doing things other children would know are not a good idea, like trying to climb into the neighbor’s pool or setting things on fire in the bathroom.  When mom catches them she just screams while they run off to the next fun.  Oh, and their house is completely destroyed!  These kids have been ‘banned’ from so many friends’ houses (including my own) for literally DESTRYING property, like swinging from a ceiling fan, throwing toys and making holes in the wall, pulling down curtain rods, etc.  The kids in our houses are so shocked when they see this that they don’t want them back either.

  • Daniela

    So when you mess up at work or have road rage or do something else that is “bad”, you should be spanked! Until I live to see that happen in the US, your child’s body is not to be used as a punching bag. You are nothing but a big bully…grow up, please and learn to parent effectively.

  • http://twitter.com/modhomemodbaby kate nicholson

    I know! It’s amazing how much behavior our children pick up directly from us. It took me a while to realize that my yelling was creating a yeller, too. As did my parent’s yelling at me. Now, even though I get just as frustrated as before, I try to find the right words and speak calmly, even if that means I need to take a little “time out” myself to gather my rational abilities.

  • http://twitter.com/modhomemodbaby kate nicholson

    Right on Sistah! I agree 100%. Punishment in the form of consequences is the most loving way to discipline. And with that, you don’t have to reassure your children that you (of course!) still love them. Thanks for replying!

  • http://twitter.com/modhomemodbaby kate nicholson

    I totally appreciate your feedback. You are right, each and every child is different, so you can’t have blanket statements about how to parent and what method is best. All sarcasm on my end aside, hitting your children, no matter the reason you do it, teaches them that hitting is something that is OK to do.

  • deejones

    i got screamed at nearly every day of my younger years, also getting smacked was another, they say violence breeds violence, i disagree, as i dont hit my kids although there have been times ive had to restrain myself and resort to shouting.

  • AimeeSproul

    I know I will inevitably lose my temper and have to the ugly yell at times; however, I think it teaches a poor way to deal with anger and conflict. Personally, I think it just makes the kid – or adult – feel bad about who they are, not what they did.

  • modhomemodbaby

    I hear you. When I’ve lost my temper – and as much as I’d like to say I don’t do that, I do sometimes – I always apologize to my children. I think parents don’t have to be perfect, they just have to be honest and themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557047871 Natashia McKillip

    I’m the child of a screamer. I scream at my kids. I hate it. It comes naturally though, so I guess it’s probably because my mother did it and my first reaction is to do what I saw growing up.
    I have been working on it and now am proud to say that I have limited the screaming to when I am being ignored when speaking to one of my children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557047871 Natashia McKillip

    We have 5, expecting #6 any day and I completely agree. Taking things away works much better, that and time-outs or ‘breather time’ for the older kids. Also, pushups for cuss words, and writing sentences when making fun of others.

  • Victoria

    Love this. You can change your tone of voice (even making it softer/lower) w/o screaming! My kids would rather me scream than lower my voice & raise my eyebrows. LOL

  • Victoria

    Wow…appareantly you can’t control your anger if you think a quick “pop” on a hinny is the same as hitting a punching bag… So possibly in your case you shouldt use spanking.

  • Victoria

    ApologIzing is soooo important. It’s good for a child to know that parents make mistakes but we also care enough to say sorry.

  • Victoria

    This is silly…. Should we gently encourage our children to be ill mannered & disrespectful just bc society deems “raising my voice or spanking” as unacceptable. Go ahead, your kids can be monsters but my children are very well behaved & we can take them anywhere w/o tantrums. And my youngest is only 23 months. How many of you have 4 kids & have the privilege of having quality time together w/o a fight? Train them young & spanking becomes unnecessary. All I have to do is raise my eyebrows.

  • Lottie Parks

    Speaking as a child, I get so scared when my mum yells at me… and it does lower my self-esteem… but I don’t think it has any effect at all. Parents, please try to go a bit easier on your kids!

  • Lottie Parks

    I guess… but didn’t it make your life so much more miserable?

  • Lottie Parks

    Parents, please. As a kid, I personally think it is immature to argue like this on the internet. XP

  • lotsababies

    No matter what we do we are going to screw our kids up……at least according to every other parent. I do what the situation calls for, children are sponges though and we do have to be careful about how we raise them

  • harelinefracture

    no. yelling is an effective tool. consider the alternative. the key is to RARELY do it. so when you raise your voice and have a stern face, they know you mean it and you’re at the end of your patience.

  • harelinefracture

    my son has apergers as well. you might be a little judgmental. you don’t know what happens in her home

  • Russell

    Hmmm… understands that actions have consequences, knows how to function within the parameters of society, and walks free instead of rotting in jail. Yep, sounds pretty miserable to me.

    Did I seriously just read this?

  • LKP

    “One way to look at it is like this – if you got yelled at at work, it would be very disturbing.” Not everyone works at a job where yelling doesn’t take place! Maybe an office job no one yells.. Besides that, if you didn’t yell sometimes, it wouldn’t be normal. People yell for all kinds of reasons..and not all of them are bad.

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